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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Nov 1, 2011 9:35am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: "ALLEGED' Rape, drugs at Occupy Baltimore

Didn't you purposely NOT use the term alleged? That's what this is! We do NOT know if anything was planted there. We have an edited video package that a Fox TV station aired to get sensational reactions by people like you.

Let's discuss the key items you've framed here:
Drug Use in an organization by an individual
How about Mark McGwire's steroids use and the huge reward Major League Baseball has given him for that? Didn't the Cardinals just win the World Series?

M.L. Baseball's hitting coach Mark McGwire
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rewarded by Cardinals on Oct 25, 2009 for steroids usage

Mark McGwire was named Hal McRae's replacement by the Cardinal's front-office. McGwire's hiring as the Cardinal's new hitting coach would be his first return to baseball since 2001. Why wasn't Mark McGwire prosecuted for Lying to Congress? Doesn't this come across horribly wrong for young children? Roger Clemens has been indicted for Lying to Congress. What about Barry Bonds getting convicted in his Steroids Case?

M.L. Baseball's Pete Rose - thinking about it
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I never used drugs! I've admitted I had a gambling problem.

Records and achievements - no Hall of Fame!
Pete Rose - Wikipedia
  • Major League records:
    • Most career hits - 4,256
    • Most career outs - 10,328
    • Most career games played - 3,562
    • Most career at bats - 14,053
    • Most career singles - 3,215
    • Most career runs by a switch hitter - 2,165
    • Most career doubles by a switch hitter - 746
    • Most career walks by a switch hitter - 1,566
    • Most career total bases by a switch hitter - 5,752
    • Most seasons of 200 or more hits - 10 (shared)
    • Most consecutive seasons of 100 or more hits - 23
    • Most consecutive seasons with 600 or more at bats - 13 (1968–1980)
    • Most seasons with 600 at bats - 17
    • Most seasons with 150 or more games played - 17
    • Most seasons with 100 or more games played - 23
    • Record for playing in the most winning games - 1,972
    • Only player in major league history to play more than 500 games at five different positions - 1B (939), LF (671), 3B (634), 2B (628), RF (595)
  • National League records:
    • Most years played - 24
    • Most consecutive years played - 24
    • Most career runs - 2,165
    • Most career doubles - 746
    • Most career games with 5 or more hits - 10
    • Modern (post-1900) NL record for longest consecutive game hitting streak NL - 44
    • Modern record for most consecutive hitting streaks of 20 or more games - 7
rape in the United States
Prison rape in the United States
-- from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Prison rape commonly refers to the rape of inmates in prison by other inmates or prison staff. In 2001, Human Rights Watch estimated that at least 140,000 inmates had been raped while incarcerated. Nearly 2.3 million inmates are currently incarcerated in prisons and jails in the United States. The U.S. is The World's largest Jailer. Prison rape has become a staple of comedy or drama in films and television. Research has shown that juveniles incarcerated with adults are five times more likely to report being victims of sexual assault than youth in juvenile facilities. The suicide rate of juveniles in adult jails is 7.7 times higher than that of juvenile detention centers.
the Fox News organization and its Dirty Secrets
How about the fact that News Corp Donates $1 MILLION to the Republican Governors Association. Fox News and Wall Street Journal parent company News Corp donated $1 million to the Republican Governors Association in June, 2010 Bloomberg BusinessWeek reported.

News Corp. Phone-Hacking Victims Plan to File U.S. Suit Against Directors - reported by Anthony Aarons for Bloomberg - Sep 23, 2011

Mark Lewis, a lawyer representing phone-hacking victims in London, represents the family of murdered schoolgirl Milly Dowler. Revelations that Dowler’s mobile-phone messages were deleted while she was missing in 2002 led to the closure of Murdoch's News of the World. This forced News Corp. to drop a takeover bid for British Sky Broadcasting Group Plc.

U.S. lawyers will make the final decisions on the defendants to include in the lawsuit, Lewis said in a separate interview on BBC News. He said that lawyers are looking at areas that should have been part of the knowledge of directors of a large corporation. Lawyers would seek to speak with News Corp. (NWS) Chairman Rupert Murdoch and Deputy Chief Operating Officer James Murdoch, Lewis said.

News Corp. agreed to pay 3 million pounds ($4.6 million) to the Dowlers and a charity to settle the family’s claims, a person with knowledge of the matter said this week. Rupert Murdoch was personally involved in the negotiations, the person said.

Mark Thomson, a lawyer who represents U.K. phone-hacking victims including Jude Law and Hugh Grant, said in an e-mail that none of his clients are taking part in a New York lawsuit.

At least 16 people have been arrested in the U.K. police probe into hacking, including Andy Coulson, an ex-News of the World editor who also served as Prime Minister David Cameron’s communications chief, and Rebekah Brooks, the former chief executive officer of News Corp.’s U.K. publishing unit.

News Corp., which faces a U.K. parliamentary probe of phone hacking by its employees, is also the subject of criminal investigations in the U.S.

U.S. prosecutors are examining whether employees of Rupert Murdoch’s company tried to access the voice-mails of 9-11 victims, broke antitrust or related laws and, according to a person familiar with the probe, bribed U.K. police for information.

The third line of inquiry was disclosed in a U.S. letter to the company requesting information on any bribes paid by its News of the World unit, said the person, who declined to be identified because the matter isn’t public. The letter is part of a Justice Department effort to determine whether News Corp. violated the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, or FCPA, the person said. also see: Wikipedia - international phone hacking scandal
OWS forum discussion about recommended News Sources
The OWS movements have two major issues which make them look bad in the eyes of Law Enforcement, The Public, and The News Media:

1) We have many OWS protest encampments that have become magnets for homeless people.

• number of homeless people in the U.S.A.
-- Homelessness in the United States - Wikipedia
-- Tent city - Wikipedia
-- How Many People Experience Homelessness? - National Coalition for the Homeless, July 2009
-- number of homeless people in the U.S.A. - Googled for you

• number of homeless people jailed in the U.S.A.
-- The Criminalization of Homelessness in U.S. Cities - National Coalition for the Homeless
-- Homelessness is prevalent among people released from prison - Reentry Policy Council
-- Homeless Children: America's New Outcasts - Nat'l Center on Family Homelessness
-- number of homeless people jailed in the U.S.A - Googled for you

number of homeless people using drugs in the U.S.A. - Googled for you

number of homeless people raped in the U.S.A. - Googled for you

number of homeless people mentally impaired in the U.S.A. - Googled for you

2) There are Agent Provocateurs amongst OWS movements, groups, and encampments. This is a Big Problem for everyone.

An agent provocateur is a person employed by the police or other entity to act undercover to entice or provoke another person to commit an illegal act. More generally, the term may refer to a person or group that seeks to discredit or harm another by provoking them to commit a wrong or rash action.

As a known tool to prevent infiltration by agents provocateurs, the organizers of large or controversial assemblies may deploy and coordinate demonstration marshals, also called stewards. OWS movements deploy this tactic.


This post was modified by dead-head_Monte on 2011-11-01 16:35:54

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 2, 2011 12:51pm
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: 'ALLEGED' Rape, drugs at Occupy Baltimore

monte. carefully read my post again, i said Tea Party...and no mirrors in the port-a-potty, and someone drinking a fine pale ale in a coke cup with a straw... Now who could I have possibly been talking about? ;) lol.

One more thing, I don't watch any cable news channels, Fox, CNN, MSNBC etc. My, TV which I hardly ever watch,(one football game in 3weeks) uses an antenna.



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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Nov 3, 2011 6:38am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: 'ALLEGED' Rape, drugs at Occupy Baltimore

The tea party protestors are now throwing shit at cops in oakland.... oh wait... wrong extremists.

Hey, isn't comical that all the gun toting tea party rallies were peaceful, but the anti-war, anti-gun protests are violent?

Let me guess, Bush's fault.

And back to trying to prove gravity doesn't exist... go!

This post was modified by NoiseCollector on 2011-11-03 13:38:21

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Nov 1, 2011 9:09am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: 'Anal Alien' Rape, thugs at Occupy Baldur

Monte, I think this website says it all:

http://www.godhatesgoths.com/godhatesretards.html

Not sure what exactly "all" is anymore...

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 1, 2011 9:17am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: 'Anal Alien' Rape, thugs at Occupy Baldur

hmmm....perhaps God Almighty is a retarded God, with a retarded creation. Occupy Mental Hospitals!! Perhaps some funding from the same Wall Street sources who fund both the TP and OWS is in order? But how can that be?? Could all this have a higher agenda? Stay tuned my prisonplanet fiends! hahahahahaha!

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Nov 1, 2011 12:06pm
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: 'Job Loss' at Occupy Wall Street


and the there is this ironic part...

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/11/01/milk-street-cafe-owner-sacks-21-employees-as-consequence-of-occupy-wall-street-demonstration/

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Nov 2, 2011 6:00am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: 'Job Loss' at Occupy Wall Street

Sounds like his problem is less with OWS than with the way the police have responded to it.

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Nov 3, 2011 10:50am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: 'Job Loss' at Occupy Wall Street

no cause and effect here.... move along....

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 2, 2011 6:51am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: 'Job Loss' at Occupy Wall Street

not to worry, it's all according to plan. Anyone knows police reaction when they are pushed to the limit with rowdy behavior and *idiots who won't comply with repeated orders to disperse. Some *nitwits can instigate and abuse the humans behind the badge, then the media can cherry pick the photo's and publish one with a *poor protester with a painful grimace on his face being handcuffed.

*It helps the cause!
(* = sarcasm)

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 2, 2011 8:22am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: 'Job Loss' at Occupy Wall Street

nice use of my sarcasm system. much easier the putting a winky face after each sarcastic remark. it also allows for more sarcasm to be squeezed into each post, which i'm all in favor of.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 2, 2011 12:43pm
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: 'Job Loss' at Occupy Wall Street

rdenirojb87, I'm still in shock and re-evaluation over the you weird comment.

I tend to believe I'm just strange >>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awi14wDTxNw

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 2, 2011 1:13pm
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: 'Job Loss' at Occupy Wall Street

what are you in shock about? i didn't even read your initial post that i responded to. i just glanced at it and saw "* = sarcasm," hence my comment.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 2, 2011 1:17pm
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: 'Job Loss' at Occupy Wall Street

last week when I *LOL'd on a thread about the Vet getting hit in Oakland, then again, that could have been Skobud

ok. I'm over it

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Poster: high flow Date: Nov 1, 2011 9:42am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: 'ALLEGED' Rape, drugs at Occupy Baltimore

Monte, I'm no McGwire fan, but isn't his steroid use also ALLEGED?

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Nov 1, 2011 10:04am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: 'ALLEGED' Rape, drugs at Occupy Baltimore

Let's review your point:

The Occupy Baltimore video from DeadRed1971's link is a local Fox 'news' crew showing one alleged instance of drugs and one alleged instance of rape. It's all very sketchy. Once.

Mark McGuire was very high profile, and 'not sketchy' as a ball player. He's in the one-percent club and so is Major League Baseball. McGuire's steroid-use allegations and / or admissions are numerous. This has been going on for years and years.

Mark McGuire, alleged steroids use - Googled
http://www.google.com/search?q=Mark+McGuire%2C+alleged+steroids+use

Mark McGuire, admits steroids use - Googled
http://www.google.com/search?q=Mark+McGuire%2C+admits+steroids+use

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Poster: high flow Date: Nov 1, 2011 10:05am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: 'ALLEGED' Rape, drugs at Occupy Baltimore

Sorry. Yes, you're right he admitted use. Does he not deserve the opportunity to make a living in his field of expertise?

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Nov 1, 2011 10:25am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: 'ALLEGED' Rape, drugs at Occupy Baltimore

Of course he does. So does Pete Rose and his reputation.

But - your point, about 'making a living' - that's The OWS Point! You've stated the number-one issue about the OWS movement:
We believe we 'deserve the opportunity to make a living'. We're in the 99 per cent.

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